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Sir BushWookie




PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-02-16, 09:38

We did bomb the shit out of it....and missed. Every. Single. Fucking. Time. It's embarrassing to be honest.

Engaging it at sea also wasn't a real option, it couldn't sail out to sea due to fuel shortages, but we didn't know that. The escorts would also make things hard since they can screen the Tirpitz and it would take a fairly large force to successfully engage the Tirpitz as she would have both the Luftwaffe and submarine support.
(Two things that kept the grand fleet anchored at Scapa Flow)
(I also didn't know that, thank you!!!)

Anyway, thank you for the civil discussion and enjoy your train ride!
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-02-16, 10:06

Yeaaaaahhh..... accuracy isnt your strong point, i must say....
if i recall my lessons in naval history correctly, when the brits were trying to destroy the bismarck, after it lost rudder control, mind you, they missed so many shots that the captain of one of the ships started crying at their own...ineptness, i guess?
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-02-16, 10:39

It really wasn't, but that's what an ego the size of the Royal Navy's and 20+ year old weapons would do to your accuracy.

To be honest Britain's military history is full of embarrassing moments *cough* Zulu wa, Crimea, Jutland, bits of the Napoleonic wars, crusades, ect *cough* but all in all we're not too bad!
It's mostly British leadership that is inept *cough* napoleonic wars, Zulu war, Jutland, ect *cough*

I can't remember the quote properly but a French general described the British as 'Wolves led by sheep' during the Napoleonic wars.
He is correct for the most part, British leaders would often make stupid decisions.(like making battlecruisers fight in the line instead of using their mobility) or are just complete morons (most British infantry leaders during the napoleonic wars)

Oh well, we've improved since then!
It's now our politicians who are morons!!......wait, it's always been like that *sigh*
*grumble* stupid bastards scrapping the Harriers *grumble* buying overpriced American jets that are over procedure and break down easily *grumble* stupid bastards *grumble* we didn't need new aircraft carriers *grumble* Ark Royal and her Harriers were fine *grumble*
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-02-16, 10:58

arent harriers like 30ish years old by now? o.O

And to quote a great work of art:
"Darling: The Germans seem to be able to anticipate our every move. We send up an aeroplane, there's a Jerry squadron parked behind the nearest cloud; we move troops to (??), the Germans have bought the whole town's supply of lavatory paper. In short: A German spy is giving away every one of our battle plans.

Melchett: You look surprised, Blackadder.

Edmund: I certainly am, sir. I didn't realise we had any battle plans.

Melchett: Well, of course we have! How else do you think the battles are directed?

Edmund: Our battles are directed, sir?

Melchett: Well, of course they are, Blackadder -- directed according to the Grand Plan.

Edmund: Would that be the plan to continue with total slaughter until every-one's dead except Field Marshal Haig, Lady Haig and their tortoise, Alan?

Melchett: Great Scott! (stands) Even you know it! Guard! Guard! Bolt all the doors; hammer large pieces of crooked wood against all the windows! This security leak is far worse than we'd imagined!"
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-02-16, 11:04

OOC: heh, Blackadder

And yes they're ancient, but that's not the point. With a slight redesign of internal components and maybe a different powerplant the harrier would be fine! Just ask the US marines, they bought ALL of our Harriers (stupidly cheap aswell iirc)
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-02-16, 11:12

Technologically, they may be up to date if you do that(dont know if it actually would be), but you have to take into consideration that hardware wears out over time. you can change most internal systems, but what about the chassis? i dont know how much they actually flought, but im pretty sure that by now, the metal is tired as hell and it will only get worse.
to adequately refit them you would need to change pretty much all their systems, engine, and the whole chassis, really... with all that effort you might as well scrap/sell them and build new ones... but if you follow the old plans, you build seriously outdated aircraft.... but designing a whole new high-tech piece of military equipment is expensive as fuck... not to mention time consuming...
granted, strategically, it is unwise to buy gear from others, especially if you might go to war with them at some point, and usually expensive too, but financially, and lets face it, thats what drives the world, its much more sensible to just buy adequate gear that someone already spent the time and money making instead of doing it yourself
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-20, 16:23

Silently cries in corner for the death of a once mighty thread. why did several of our members decide to have a sudden case of shit to the brain?
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-20, 19:25

Oh well, we can always start again
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-20, 23:29

We'd need someone willing to gm it since cow got banned
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-20, 23:32

But if we can restart it that'd be awesome, this was getting so so so good
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-20, 23:47

I think if we changed it slightly it could work.
So instead of being on a mechanicus city ship, we are in an Imperial hivecity.
It allows for far more in the way of events, orks could invade, a civil war could erupt, SPACE MARINES, Tyranids genestealers, ect.
It would allow for us to keep the gang warfare thing, and it would allow me to rectify some massive mistakes....and possibly to change my character appearance/apparel
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-21, 05:09

Better idea, a Tau controlled hivecity located in the Damocles Gulf, set 30 years after the Imperium pulled out.

Basic outline, we all play citizens of the aforementioned give city who either prefer Tau rule or wish for the Imperium to retake the planet and merely abide by the new laws until such a time occurs.
The Tau have crushed the only truly organised rebels and have returned to being somewhat lax when it comes to security.
This is backed by the fluff as Tau ten to only leave token garrisons on captured planets/bases with the majority of their forces in space to act as a rapid reaction force.

I think this would allow us some flexibility in our choices(Like recruiting Kroot) but also contain some serious consequences. Like a strike on the local Tau HQ/rebellion would result in a ton of Firewarriors being deployed to act as 'Peacekeepers'.

It could also explore different scenarios and allow for character growth that just wouldn't occur in the Imperial hive cities.
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-21, 15:45

Sounds awesome, what changes do you want to make to max?
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-21, 17:24

A few changes, namely his background and general attire.
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-21, 18:58

Maybe Dark Eldar could turn up, we all know they just loooove the Tau.
Which could lead to some super-fun shenanigans.
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-21, 20:56

could indeed, i'll keep akira the same, she's kinda linked to my other characters, i like it that way
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-21, 21:08

Alright, well it looks like we just need to ask people if they want to join and try to find a DM
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-21, 21:11

yep
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-21, 21:41

Azrok won't DM
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-21, 21:42

Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-21, 21:46

Hmm...could get Naz or Fae
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-21, 21:48

another player would be good too, so maybe both?
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-21, 22:01

That would be nice
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-21, 22:13

that would be the metaphorical equivalent of defibing the thread
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-21, 22:20

Mm
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-21, 23:17

Gor might DM
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-22, 07:49

Awesome!
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-22, 13:09

OOC: im laughing my ass off right now....

"I really don't see how people can survive on that. "



Here, you make about a quarter of that if you have a well paying job! My parents make about an eighth of that a year. Even with higher cost of living there, just how incompetent must one be to not be able to live off of that?!
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-22, 15:35

OOC. also, second assessment of Blacklight: Its still crap...
The game offers a great variety of weapons with many customization options... but why bother? Unless you use anything other than raw DPS, youre useless 95% of the time, and even when you arent, you could do just as well with the meta build... Hell, an SMG with horrible accuracy and a 1.3X "scope" is still more effective at long range than the basic assault rifle simply because of its DPS, even with all the missed shots...
If you stop for a moment to assess your situation, reload, think, you are basically dead since everyone has built-in wallhack and know exactly where you are. additionally, there is no point trying to play tactically whatsoever. Not a single person even tries to stay alive, they just rush in with full aggro and hope to outgun you.
And why wouldnt they? if they stay alive too long, and do enough damage, they become high threats with a shitton of bounties on them... basically, if youre good, and you die, your opponents get huge point bonuses... The game literally punishes your team for you being good or not rushing to your death ASAP...
And pretty much any long range weapon is useless... theres a single map where you have large open-ish terrain. anywhere else, its always gonna be point blank range encounters around corners... there you kill your enemy, drop in health, the next one pops up and kills you simply because he has the health to survive your DPS while you dont have enough to survive his...usually...
As it stands, your best option is to just make a full damage build SMG(second weapon you unlock), buy full HP gear(being faster just means you run into someone faster, really... everyone always knows where you are anyway) and go nuts... lvl30+ people dont believe that i just started 3 days ago with this tactic... if it can be called that...

Then theres the hardsuit, a mech call-down you can use in the depo if you have enough points... but why bother? you may become tough but your killrate is gonna go waaaay down because its so bulky and slow. plus its basically free kill for anyone who has points to buy a stinger... or they can just ignore it and it wont encounter anyone... using the depo is pretty much a death sentence anyway... it takes about 5 seconds to buy 2 things there(usually ammo and health) and that is more than enough time for someone to show up and blast your defenseless ass while youre shopping...


Oh yeah, and three techincal details:
1.: People easily seem to be able to shoot you through a meter of solid concrete
2.: Often i see that i got a confirmed hit, and then i die. then the camera proceeds to my killer and i see that he took the hit to the head, and theres even a cloud of blood around it, yet he is at full HP...hitscan sucks...
3.: There seems to be no cheat protection... Theres a guy who comes online pretty much every day and proceeds to slaughter everyone with his aimbot... and hes still around and fine... (no, this is not me crying.. he instantly snaps at you from across the map if he has a line of fire, even if in a mech, which should turn much slower)


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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-22, 15:38

Americans are stoopids, but anyway, you looking to join in naz?
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-22, 15:57

OOC. not really. No new revelation hit me regarding creativity. Honestly, i still think we exhausted the possibilities that our profile had to offer. Of course, the fact that stuff is still happening, somewhat, is proof against that. Its a matter of perspective, i guess
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-22, 16:14

I feel like this was one of the threads that was geting really good, its a lot easier to Rp in a universe we all know instead of making it all up
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-22, 16:15

OOC yeah but at the same time, we have a limited number of pieces to work with. Ive been doing this since the very beginnings on flashgitz, at like... RM episode 13 or so... Ive done pretty much everything i can think of since then
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-22, 16:25

OOC remind me what a GM is again
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-22, 16:25

GM?
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-22, 16:28

OOC in seeing this thread had activity I went back to look to what point it became active again. the term Gm was thrown around, these 2 need one apparently
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-22, 16:29

OOC: oh, i thought you misread my comment. anyway, GM usually stands for GameMaster
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-22, 16:30

OOC yeah that was my line of thought too, could be wrong
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-22, 16:31

OOC: when in doubt, either 42, or Jesus will always be correct answer
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-22, 16:39

just someone who wants to be a massive dick and throw all the shit we have to deal with at us
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-22, 16:40

bush said something about gor wanting to
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-22, 16:40

OOC that I saw, consider me plausible
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-22, 16:44

if you want to join too, thats fine. i don't think we've ever done living in a tau controlled colony before, the racial tension could be quite fun. say bush, how long ago are we saying the takeover was? like would akira and max have been alive during the invasion?
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-22, 16:47

I made an entirely pink tau army and I'm not ashamed of it

 Edit: the kroot are magenta
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-22, 16:50

eyyyyy ultimate apocalypse, i have that mod. i normally play the IG though.... i may or not have a paint scheme of the 1st Karasov Regiment :p
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-22, 17:11

OOC did you get the new update to the mod?
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-22, 21:51

In answer to your question, we never spoke about the time and date of the setting.
If we go by their ages (20 and 22 respectively) then I don't think so.
Though having them at 29 and 22, would mean that your guy would have either willingly settled in Tau territory or was redeployed to fight in the Damocles Crusade.
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-22, 21:59

Looking at dates, the Damocles Gulf Crusade ended in 745.M41. So this new RP would be set in 775.M41.
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-22, 23:02

October 23.! Viva la Revolution! 
/Starts rioting and shooting russians/
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-22, 23:04

Jax, akira's father was on the run from the inquisition, so settling in tau space makes some sense, he left afterwards for some reason though, leaving akira when she was like 18
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PostSubject: Re: Hive warfare.   2015-10-22, 23:06

Because this Jax is the same Jax that barely escaped krasov and is being hounded by the inquisition because, A) he saw fuck tons of demonic shit, and B) akira's mother is a sister of battle... Sooo.... Inquisition is pissed
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