Our concerns

At least I'm mature enough to handle the lore of 40k without going full rage mode on people.

Alright arken, new low, powers going to your head, come back down to earth and talk about this sensibly, the others are raising the stakes on low blows buttoned going way ahead now, everyone cool off okay?

*but you are

Are we immature teenagers because you gave up and we're saying reasons we think the site should be improved?
I didn't use an insult from what I was aware. I'm defending someone clearly misunderstood, knowing he will never return due to bad treatment.
Seeing as you have resorted to insults though, you need to stop acting responsible. This literally had nothing to do with you. You didn't need to comment at all. Hell, you could've been a good admin.
Note past tense.

And raeven, due apologies but the first insult was hurled by the other party. I knew it'd become this...

your not doing your job then very well are you, so far you have got no closer to actually disarming the situation

Also cow was that a reference to the consortium?

STOP
EVERYONE
STOP
NOW

No, I want issues fixed before we stop

Thank you gor, I was hoping all caps wasn't required but hey

We will kitten, just, we all need to calm down

And yes for, i would prefer for the actual admins to comment on the topics I raised instead of arken chipping in and ignoring all actual feedback/suggestions.

As much as I honestly want to stop, I would prefer if someone actually hears us out before we are all silenced

Is that to much to ask?

Captain Raeven wrote:

We will kitten, just, we all need to calm down

Raeven, honestly I am as calm as a stoner right now, just without the use of pot

Hey, ortus, arken started with good intentions doing well, he just let his temper get the better of him

no hyp
shut up
EVERYONE shut up
this keeps going like it is then itll end in nothing solved and everyone angry
so stop this shit
NOW

No.
I refuse.
I made points, of which I was met with arken going 'you abuse people'
I am not shutting up. Not yet.

You mean to silence me, silence the voice which has spoke out against what is happening, is this what you want? Do you feel like a hero yet?

Um, no. 
We came here to fix problems, if you have a problem with that, then you'll have to give us the same treatment you gave Vargas.

Okay. I'm saying this now. I'm not ignoring you people, I'm just not agreeing with you. Also, accusing me of the power going to my head is a low blow. It's gone to my head because I simply stated I'm doing my job? HAH!! No, no it hasn't. I'm doing my job by responding to you. If I want, I can log off and leave you all to your own devices, but I won't, because I'm better than that.

Guys, do as he says

Alright gor, take the lead and tell us how we sort this

Arken, you let your temper tick off, nice and calm now, we're going to do as gor says, have some kind of reasonable debate, and solve this

@Ravean: I applaud you for being mature about this. I'll concede, maybe I shouldn't have stuck my head in here because of my history with you guys, but that doesn't change the fact I'm site staff and that this thread warranted a staff response.

I want gor to reply. I don't want some angry madman to insult me anymore.
So gorath, what do you think of the raise points?

True arken, but we all need to moderate our tempers, the staff most of all, set an example

Ortus, insults have got us nowhere

Wait what the fuck why did that post here

I wanted to post soothing music

ah well, you now have guns being fired

Who insulted the other first? Literally, one on of his first replies, he branded me a sadist.

I mean, he is... but common man!

Okay, sure he did, and he should apologise, but be the bigger man, dude. I feel like a primary teacher here

"Angry madman." And there are the personal attacks. I have every right to be angry. I was pointing out logical reasons for the removal of a troll, and yet I have active members defending a troll. My anger is warranted do the illogical behavior I have seen here tonight.

Also, calling someone a "sadist" isn't an insult. It's a valid description of behavior wherein an individual gains pleasure from the suffering of others. You admitted to enjoying seeing Vargas be flamed by your friends. That's sadistic by any logical description.

But fine, if it'll make things easier, I apologize.

So..Is gorath going to be the messiah and post a answer to all our questions or..Eh, must be taking him a while to post on phone

For now you all start apologising and being reasonable, force me to be a primary teacher and I'll be one

Arken, you have very little right to talk about personal attacks..Do you want me to comb back through this debate for evidence or will you concede that you have

 calling someone a "sadist" isn't an insult. It's a valid description of behavior wherein an individual gains pleasure from the suffering of others. You admitted to enjoying seeing Vargas be flamed by your friends. That's sadistic by any logical description.
1) yes it is
2) proof please? Oh wait.
3) wow, accusing my friend of being a sadist, on the contrary; I've met him in person and I can say that he isn't capable of emotion.

Angry madman, yes.
Also, when did I admit to that? I said I found the chapters funny. Are you just out trying to warrant me into hurling threats at you so I become the bad guy?
Apology is not accepted, as I see no actual reason to accept it.

Guys? Really? Can't you all be sincere?

Im just listening to xenoblade music

Im really feeling it

Does anyone have a ETA on george?

As 'Fun' as this is im waiting for a admin to be of use..

*Sighs* Wow. So I decide to use descriptive and mature diction and I get torn apart for it. Right...I officially give up. Goodbye. I can tell where this is going and that I will not win here and that nothing will ever satisfy any of you. I will be leaving this site post haste as I have no intention of staying now. I tried to be civil and logical and I was insulted and ripped apart for it. Goodbye. Although you are not deserving of this benediction, live long and prosper.

Arken really

Sadism is receiving sexual pleasure from said acitivites.
I got nothing like that. You insulted me.
Seeya, quick, bail while you're losing.

Someones over reacting, you could have had a civil conversation but you turned to petty insults nigh instantly, now I am expecting flak from george in about 20 minutes because you left, and all I can say is: Have fun where ever fate takes you, even though I know come tommrow you will be back here

OK so now that's over can we get back to an actual response? pls

*shakes head* really guys you can't reconcile your differences so you one by one sod off while trying to seem like the better man ?

You're all being pathetic, I expected better of you guys

It's easy to judge when you ain't on a side.

Im not trying to be the better man, or atlesat im not trying to see myself as a better man, all I want is answers, after that I will gladly go where I am wanted, be that off the forum or on here, it makes no difference to me

Easy now ollie, no need starting a second fire fight

He left to make him look like the victim. All he did to me was accuse me of abuse and say I get sexual gratification from the pain of others. Why should I try to have an actual conversation with him?

I was on a side , and I was mighty pissed, but I got an honest apology, saw the motives of who tried to dick me over and forgave and forgot

Before I finally go and put a bullet in my account, I'd like to say that I A) Tried to be civil about this and reconcile, but none one was willing to listen to logic. B) I did not start with personal insults. I used the proper terms to descriptive the behavior I witnessed. C) I was giving actual responses as per my position. Frankly, I was hoping to spare Naz and Gor of having to deal with this, but sadly, I have failed in that. Now they will and nothing can be done to change that, as unfortunate as it may be. I will now exit stage left.